just as airline pilots have a primary interest in safely landing planes, even nancy pelosi, harry reid and barack obama will be elderly some day. >> pat buchanan, i wanted to ask you because sarah palin -- you've followed sarah palin's ark closely. again, something that sarah palin is not helping herself here, talking about these death panels, about how barack obama's plan could lead to the death of little trig. that's not helpful to her on the cause, is it? >> it's not only tough, it is impossible to defend. it's got nothing to do 0 with children. there have been good, frankly, good columns that end of life thing, these professional physician counselors. charles lane had one i think it was saturday in "the washington post" which i thought was excellent and there's no doubt that, look, they are going to cut back benefits, prescription drugs, things like that to some extent for the elderly because all the expenses come in the last six months of life and these are going to have to be cut back. that's what you're seeing that lady, a 74-year-old cancer patient, you're seeing all that conce